2005-01-22 [dark kitty in big trouble]: are you kidding me???????? of course i am silly ^^ i wouldnt miss it for the world ^^ so yeah......oh and since today is your special day.....you get the happy b-day song^^ XDready? HERE WE GO......tis your birthday its your birthday....its your specialday....its your birthday its your birthdy...lets go out and play!!!! -repeats song many many times- HAPPY B-DAY CAROLYN !!!!!!!!!!!XD

2005-01-24 [Kagomeyasha]: -bounces up and down as you sing- wowzers...you and nico are going out ^-^ she said that i should tell you "I love ya sam" yah before she ledft she said to do that ^_____^

2005-01-26 [dark kitty in big trouble]: okays ^^ i wuv you also carolyn.....i can spread the love XD WAHOO ><

2005-01-26 [n/aaaaa]: 0.0"

2005-01-26 [dark kitty in big trouble]: 0o.....um.......FOOLISH MORTAL!!!!!!!......0o uh...yeah....hi^^

2005-01-28 [Kagomeyasha]: *gets all small and sits on sams head and munches on her hair* I just thought that nico was gonna takes you's away from me ;o;

2005-01-28 [dark kitty in big trouble]: no, nobody could take me away from you....hehehe we hve no school on friday....w00t w00t >0< wahoo.....hey get off my hair.....or else....grrrr...eh heheheheh not really ^^ i love you

2005-01-29 [Kagomeyasha]: *smiles and comtinues munching* i know it...^^ me and nico wanted ta do's something with you but it didnt work out..

2005-02-03 [dark kitty in big trouble]: what? why dids it not work out???????

2005-02-04 [Kagomeyasha]: you werent home! You were with your modres! and so we did it on saturday! then we bought ice creams and chicken!

2005-02-06 [dark kitty in big trouble]: ah yesh i remember nows ^^ hey so how'd the suprise party go? ^^ was it suprising? hey your on right now ^^

2005-02-06 [Kagomeyasha]: nnow i am but you arent ;o;

2005-02-08 [dark kitty in big trouble]: sorry bout that ;.;l

2005-02-12 [Aliz]: hey...can I join??

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: yeah sure you can!! you dont have to ask^^

2005-02-12 [Aliz]: *happy* I do have to ask :P hehe..

2005-02-13 [Kagomeyasha]: you dont unless it is password protected :P but that's okies^^

2005-02-13 [Aliz]: but I wanted to ask :P hehe

2005-02-13 [dark kitty in big trouble]: okay since you asked you can join tyhen ^^

2005-02-14 [Kagomeyasha]: well you sure did do that :D

2005-02-14 [Aliz]: hehe ^_^

2005-02-14 [Kagomeyasha]: so anuyways..

2005-02-14 [Aliz]: wazzup??

2005-02-15 [dark kitty in big trouble]: sky ^^

2005-02-15 [n/aaaaa]: XD

2005-02-15 [Aliz]: wazzdown then?? :P oh...i already know...hell...and..uh...me :D

2005-02-15 [Kagomeyasha]: :D Can i come!?!

2005-02-15 [Aliz]: were??

2005-02-16 [dark kitty in big trouble]: hell ^^ i told one of my friends that i wouldnt pay her back untill hell freezes over, so id like to go and see if it has or not ^^ cuz i dont wanna give her 80 cents....thats a waste of good money man

2005-02-16 [Kagomeyasha]: wow sam...that's great? 80 cents?!?! Add it to your savings some day we'll buy a car together ;D

2005-02-16 [n/aaaaa]: 80 cents!! -0-0-  ^_^

2005-02-16 [dark kitty in big trouble]: yeah ^^ hey check your messeges ^^ ya know the one on elfpack ^^

2005-02-16 [Kagomeyasha]: well durr..

2005-02-16 [n/aaaaa]: XD

2005-02-16 [dark kitty in big trouble]: hehe ^^

2005-02-16 [Aliz]: well...it is kinda cold now :P hehe..

2005-02-16 [dark kitty in big trouble]: ??....okay then ^^

2005-02-17 [Kagomeyasha]: heck yes you people!

2005-02-17 [Aliz]: yeah...it's true

2005-02-17 [dark kitty in big trouble]: w00t w00t ^^

2005-02-18 [Kagomeyasha]: HAPPY ASS GRABBING DAY

2005-02-18 [Chainer]: the same to you ~.^

2005-02-18 [Aliz]: X_x

2005-02-18 [n/aaaaa]: XD

2005-02-18 [Aliz]: X_x

2005-02-18 [dark kitty in big trouble]: w00t w00t ^^ hey whats been happening on the latest inuyasha episodes....i havent gotten to see them in a while --'''' please tell me...

2005-02-19 [Aliz]: I dunno

2005-02-19 [Kagomeyasha]: lotsa stuff she's seen em naky twice sam1!!

2005-02-19 [dark kitty in big trouble]: yeah i know ^^ but as the shinshinintia episodes started yet????? ya know the ones with bankotsu and jakotsu ^^????

2005-02-19 [Kagomeyasha]: nope thats not for another 15 eps! ><

2005-02-20 [dark kitty in big trouble]: awwww....oh well at least i didnt mis anything ^^

2005-02-20 [Aliz]: I don't even know what you are talking about..but...whatever :P

2005-02-20 [Kagomeyasha]: Inuyasha! Durr it's only the most awesomest anime in the worldest! anywho! wowsers WORLD DOMINATION BABY!!! XP

2005-02-21 [dark kitty in big trouble]: ohhhhh yeah ^^ lets destroy all human beings by sumoning up death trees and hords of weak demons to make the job quick....but we'll get to kill the important ones ^^ like that bush guy >3

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Yeah he definatly has to go...i made an Anti-Bush :P

2005-02-21 [Human Casualties]: yay a wiki against Bush!

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: please tell me why you hate bush?

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: because he's ************** <----lots of nasty swearing words ^_^

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: that isn't a reason to hate someone, because you have no backing for why you call him those words...why do you think he is those things? give me spacifics....

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: I just don't like him...and I don't care if ppl don't like me for that...(you probably like him...don't you?)

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i don't *like* him...i *support* him because he is a good leader...not the best we ever had, but he has done well...why don't you like him? because he has morals? because he went in to iraq to collect Saddam? why?

2005-02-21 [dark kitty in big trouble]: no because he used up his excuse of going to Iraq to collect Saddam along time ago....now he's just there for the oil. This is because if he was really aftter the terrorists, he would hhave nucied them along time ago, he's just that kind of dude. And i say he has to go

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: we did not go there for the oil because that oil is not worth the amount of money it would take to get it...if we drained those ouil fields, we wouldn't even make back 1/2 the money we spent...and iraq doesn't *own* that oil, most of europe does...countried like turkey own the pipelines that take that oil underground and to other countries...we coculdn't TOUCH that oil without having the UN come after us for stealing THEIR oil...you know nothing if you think we went for oil...and we cannot "nuce" terrorists...they have to go up for trial for thweir crimes,....that is how we work because otherwise it would be "in humane" and we would get in trouble...we went into iraq for Saddam because...

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: ...of guilt for putting Saddam in power in the 80s because he was fighing a common enemy...he is guilty of genoside...how do you think that reflects on us since we put him in power? we went in there because we were still shoked over 9-11 and Saddam used our moment of insecurity to declare that he had wepons of mass distruction, thinking that we would be scared shitless, and we were, so we invaded...we called his bluff because it tured out he didn't have any...why do you think Saddam went into hidding as SOON as we showed up there?

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: dude....take it to the wiki...this is the wrong one :D

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: we liberated his oppessed people, and they are not free, voting, and happy...i won't deny that we went in there partially because we looked bad, but mostly because Saddam was threatening us...so i must ask again, now that you know we didn't go in for oil and that we actually *helped* out over there....why do you hate bush?

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: we can talk about it anywhere...you feel so strongly about it that you made a wiki, so defend it...now that you know we didn't go in for oil, why do you hate bush?

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: He makes stupid choices and banns pointless things. He needs to focus more on this country then the other countries around him. We need the attention. Schools here in Oregon can barely keep up with paper supplize because our money source is so low.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: bush has raised the federal budget for public schools more than ANY OTHER presidant in history...funny since he is Republican and that isn't traditionally a republican thing to do...so your shitty school's money problems are not his fault...and what "pointless laws" is he making? 1) laws are made and sent to him, and 2) they are made because they are issues that come up, not just him sitting there trying to think of something to make a law against...sounds to me like you have just been brainwashed by bushsucks.com and have no real idea about anything

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Maybe that's true, but i dont like him and i dont mind if you do or don't, it isnt something that i am forcing onto people, like to hate him, i just dont beleive that he should be in control of our country, i was told this by my family.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: so you were *told* not to like him, and so, regardless of any proof or evidence to contradict that, you will not listen? that is the definition of idiocy...you hate someone, for no *reason*...yet people like you say i can't hate gays for "no reason"...you say i don't "know them" and that they are "good people" yet you don't "know" bush, and i say he is a "good man" funny...i actually don't hate gays, but the act of homosexuality...so it seems to me, that people like you, are just closeminded

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: I'm not an idiot. I sat with my family watching those debates and hearing the things that they said. I may be wrong and i am aware of that, but these are my beliefs and i dont care what others think about them,

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i watched the debates too, and Karry was a flipfloper, and he also was against gay marriage...would you have rather had a presidant that wasn't sound in his opinions, and *still* sisn't support gay marriage? of the two, bush is the better leader...you don't have to like him personally, him having morals and conviction, but hating him is wrong...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: I dont hate him i just dont believe int the same things that he does, so i am against his presidency.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: no, you said you "hate" him...on your wiki you say you "hate: him....on your wiki you call him stupid and make fun of him personally...you are flipflipping here....you can dissagree, but that is not what you are doing with your wiki, or with anything you have said so far...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: I can make fun of him all that i want to, and i knw that i am flipping, but maybe that is because you got something into my head that i havent realized before

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: why make fun of someone you don't merely agree with? i don't agree with Bis and Gays, but i don't have a web page making fun of them...

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: so?? you're problem :P

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: But you do have wiki's against them :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: no, i have a wiki against the act of homosexuality...that is comparative of you having a wiki against conservatives...but you have one against bush, so should i have one against gay people?

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: I don't....but if you don't like somebody, you're free to say it...so why not make wikis??

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i don't like alot of things...the difference is i show RESPECT...you guys don't...you have no respect for people

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: There are alot against homosexuality

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: so?? I don't have respect for ppl I don't like, so what??

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Actually you do. It's common Curtisy.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i don't like you now, but i respect you....that is the differance, that that is my point

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: well...ppl gotta earn my respect ;)

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: People do not like me because i am Bisexual. So I am not liked here at all.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: people deserve respect naturally, we are all different, and *you* have to accept that....people can lose respect, but they shouldn't have to earn itin the first place...

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: mean ppl...I think it's ok...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: I have not accepted that?

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: but it's easy to earn my respect :P

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: you shouldnt have to earn it unless that person has done something to you.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: but bush hasn't earned it ariavain? after all they good he has done? all the good that outweight any bad you can think of? a man that has pulled this country together in times of crisis, and has extended help to other people, hasn't won your basic respect?

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: and i agree kagomeyasha...you should have to earn it unless you have personally wronged someone

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: yes...

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: yay!...we agree...*huggles* i knew we were capable of that somehow, on something....lol...(^_-)

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: well...think whatever you want about me...I don't care...I'm used to being different :P

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: *huggles back laughing* We can still be friends even if we have some differences :P

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: I hope so ^_^

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: that is what i believe kagomeyasha *huggles*...if i believed in only being friends with people that were exactly like me...i would have no one but myself as a friend...(^_-)...and i am used to being different too ariavain, but i have respect for those who are different, unlike you

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: yes Raine, you really are a good person.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: as are you...*hugs*

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: so...I don't have respect for those who are different?? well...then I don't have respect for anybody...

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: apparently

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: that's what it seems to me. *hugs back*

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: that's what you're saying...(but apparently you haven't noticed that you're wrong)...whatever..

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: That is basically what you told us though :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i can only go by what *you yourself* have said

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: I didn't say that I don't respect different ppl...I don't respect ppl I don't like :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: and that, as we have said, is wrong...you chose not to like people for your own selfish reasons...that is closeminded, and wrong

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: you don't know what makes me not like a person...

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: you don't "like" bush, and have yet to give adecent reason as to why...so i can only assume you chose to hate people due to purly superfical reasons, making you a shallow, closminded, judgmental person

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: how nice... you now, I never said I was nice...so I DON'T CARE :P I don't have to explain myself to anybody...

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: then stop getting so indigent when people judge you just like you judge them...

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: I don't care if you judge me...as long as you don't say I like pink...then I'd have to do something horrible :P hehe..

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i like pink...:P

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: wow...you reallly are closeminded.

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: BUSH SHALL DIE!!!!!I WILL KILL HIM!!!!AND LET HIS SOUL BURN!!!I AM ANGEL OF DEATH!!!!MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i think she is kagomeyasha *shakes head* and on that same thought, i hate it when closeminded people have the nerve to call me closeminded...it's like, can we say "hypocrite"?

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: YEAH!!! go girl!!! pink is NASTY as hell :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: and [Angel of Death] since you just brought it up again, you have me started again, why do *you* hate bush?

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: HEHEHE!!! this is so fucking fun :P

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: ohh goodness! And Raine! I didnt call you close minded.

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: because i hate him.. come on.. he's a little shit-head....

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i know you didn't kag. i was just using that moment to express my frustration towards those that do...lol...*huggles*

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: I agree :D hehehe...and Rainedrop is closeminded :D

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: o.O I have an Anti-Bush but i dont know if you want to get Raine started again :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: and angel of death, what makes him a shit head? i have already proven that bush is a great man that has helped us up over and over as well as exteneded his help to others that needed it...so what makes him a "shit head"?

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: and Kag. is right, you *don't* want to get me started again, but if you want to pick a debate over bush, go right ahead, i don't mind repeating what i have already said to you

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: *sits back wanteing to see how she will deal with Raine ;P*

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: this is fun...GOO anti-bush!! MUAHAHAHA

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: can it arivain...your opinions are moot because they are not able to be backed up with anything more than "i don't like him"...you lose, so be quiet

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: o.o' thanks?

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: i just hate him.. ok??end of story..

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: She's going to ask for a reason..you should have seen our three converstaqtions earlier..and we're friends XP

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: I don't need to explain why I don't like somebody...I just don't...and ppl that fix wars aren't usually nice :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: tell me why you narrowminded Tragolodyte...tell me what he has done that makes you hate him...is it his morals? is it him going into iraq to take out saddam? tell me, because "i just don't like him" is bullshit and doesn't not stand with me

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: hehehe...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Here we go agin..

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: you ariavain, then are a bigot...you hate people for no reason...you "just do"...that makes you prejudice...you are what makes this world shitty

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: HEY!!!dont say that about my friend!!!!!

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: so?? YEAY!!!! finally somebody said that :D and I do have reasons...I just don't wanna share them with ppl like YOU :P MUAHAHAHA

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: you are both just bigots...and i hate bigots...there is *my* reason for not liking the two of you...you have a 0 in my respect spectrum

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: you go girly!!hehe.. share them with people you know wont let you down...hehe

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: let me down?? I just "don't like" rainedrop...men nå synes jeg vi skal snakke litt her oxo...for rainedrop er bare føkka uansett!!! HEHEHE

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: JA!!hehehe... faan for noen klyser de er egentlig..øøøææææååå

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: No offense to anyone....but you shouldnt just hate people for no reason.. :P

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: åjoda kagomeyasha.. VI gjør det...hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: I dont understand what you are saying...

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: well, they do, so just ignore them...anyways...how are you? do any of you have a stand on the bible? because on the agree to disagree wiki i belong to, that is the topic, but no one will debate it, and they won't change it, and i'm getting so annoyed i am thinking about leaving that wiki

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: I didn't say I hate ppl...I said that there are ppl I don't like, and I do have reasons for not liking them...I juist don't want to explain them to ppl like rainedrop... :P regndråpe er en jævla kødd :P hehehe

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: hehehe.. jadda...hehehehehehhehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: hehehe...jævla føkkings mongo ku :P hehe...er ikke jeg bare såååå snill? hehe

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: you know, if i have to start making fun of you in german so you won't know what i'm saying i will, so knock it off...and if you are not willing to say why you don't like someone, they i call your bluff that you don't *have* a reson...othwer wise you would have just said it

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: hey.. i know some german..so i would know what you said... :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: fine...russian then...still, if you had a *real* reason, you simply wowuld have said it...you bigot

2005-02-21 [Aliz]: I do have a reason, but I wont tell it to YOU...right angel of death?? hehe :P...and just start talking german, cuz I was one of the best students in my german class :P HAHA

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: yeah...you're right Arìavain.....

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: I'm actually taking German next year..that or japanese :D

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i could do it in russian then, like i said...and regardless, you two should grow up...in these many comments you have typed, you could have simply said why you don't like me...thus why i say you don't *have* a reason...

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: go to hell..... no wait.. i live there.. hmm.. go away from me!!!*runs*

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i was here first, and i'm a member of this wiki, you go away....and i didn't think a bigot like you belived in God, or heaven or hell...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: You really sound like Idiots if you bring something up and cannot defend it :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: shhh...they are too dumb to even realize that...lol

2005-02-21 [Angel of Death]: you'll die a painful death.... goodbye rasshøl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i will? how do you know? is that a threat on my life that you are going to kill me in a painful way? i think, since i'm on council, that a banning is in order...threatening a council member's life is an automatic banning on this site you know

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: *laughs and gets all small sitting on Raines head* Sorry but i am totally qwith Raine ont his one...you guys are onlyu embaressing yoursleves..

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: hahaha...hello up there! *looks up to see Kag, peeking over the top of my head*

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: *waves down all small at Raine* do you think that we scared them away?

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: they prbably finally realized how dumb they are, and are sitting in the dark corner alone, crying...muhahaha!

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Muahaha! Totally We rock *high fives with her itty bitty hand*

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: w00t! maybe my council threat scared her

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: I bet that's what did it :D Go Raine w00tles!

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: lol...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Anyways..we took up several pages it was on 14 but now its on 20 :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: woot! well, this wiki needed a good work out...lol...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: yeah i agree with you on that...it was REALLY dull..

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: like it is getting now...lol...MEOW! hahaha!

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: i know heheh the comments get smaller and smaller......

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: and smaller

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: an smaller...

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: and small

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: i think that it is going to die at any moment :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: (x_x)

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: X_x

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: muhahahaha! i am drawing pictures for my daughter Falica...i drew one of Aril for the little mermaid, and one of Jazmen and Aladin...(^_^)

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: :P Dood! I wanna see! That sounds like...AWESOME....I really need a scanner speaking of that -___-;

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i wish i had a scanner to show you...but i am just mailing the originals to her...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: oh? you mail them to someone to scan for you?

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: hmmm...i don't think eli has a scanner

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Oh..well i was thinking the wrong thing then ^.^;;

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: well, they look good, but they are just like any disney picture you can find

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: i know but i would want to see them cause you dont color your art and it would be interesting to see a black and whie disney charectar. :D

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i did colour them though...lol...with coloured pencils...lol...i can't colour...lol

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: :P I can't color either.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i was proud that i staied in the lines...(for the most part :P)

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: *laughs* yeah i tend to do better with shading :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i try and shade with coloured pencils, but i suck...lol

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: yeah....you know what...i wonder why coloured pencils are so difficult..-___-;